{"id":9385,"date":"2024-11-19T15:59:58","date_gmt":"2024-11-19T22:59:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jasonsblog.ddns.net\/?p=9385"},"modified":"2025-02-07T10:58:12","modified_gmt":"2025-02-07T17:58:12","slug":"nixos-commits-a-purge-of-nazi-contributors-forces-abdication-of-founder","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jasonsblog.ddns.net\/index.php\/2024\/11\/19\/nixos-commits-a-purge-of-nazi-contributors-forces-abdication-of-founder\/","title":{"rendered":"NixOS Commits a \u201cPurge\u201d of \u201cNazi\u201d Contributors, Forces Abdication of Founder"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>A lot of free software people are liberal, but I had no idea how they&#8217;re bullying people like this. I <a href=\"https:\/\/jasonsblog.ddns.net\/index.php\/2024\/04\/19\/nixos-is-mindblowing\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">had run NixOS<\/a> for a while, and it was an extremely interesting project, but it&#8217;s been taken over and they ousted the founder. Of course, once a project is taken over by people so mentally impaired, it&#8217;s not going to end well. But to force people to promote trans and homosexuals is ridiculous though telling. And it&#8217;s really more about communism which uses Trans-Maoism which was betrayed by one of the activists using the Antifa flag (there is actually an Antifa distro AntiX closely aligned with MX Linux). <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/lunduke.locals.com\/post\/5815715\/dont-wave-the-lgbt-flag-suse-opensuse-says-you-are-rotten-flesh\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">openSUSE declared that anyone<\/a> who does not fully support &#8220;Trans&#8221; activities &#8212; and wave the &#8220;Pride Flags&#8221; &#8212; is &#8220;Rotten Flesh&#8221; who should be banned from the entire Linux world.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/lunduke.locals.com\/post\/5818858\/elementary-os-asahi-linux-declare-war-on-right-wing-nerds\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Asahi &amp; elementary Linux both made a policy<\/a> of not allowing <em>any<\/em> users or contributors who do not actively support &#8220;Trans&#8221; activities.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/lunduke.locals.com\/post\/5515463\/red-hat-vs-hyprland-silencing-political-undesirables\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The Hyprland creator was banned<\/a>, by a Red Hat employee, from the Free Desktop project after a <em>perceived<\/em> lack of reverence for &#8220;Trans&#8221; activities and &#8220;pronouns&#8221;.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Below the article I&#8217;ll include a followup video by Bryan Lunduke.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/lunduke.locals.com\/post\/5819317\/nixos-commits-a-purge-of-nazi-contributors-forces-abdication-of-founder\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/lunduke.locals.com\/post\/5819317\/nixos-commits-a-purge-of-nazi-contributors-forces-abdication-of-founder<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-ub-divider ub_divider ub-divider-orientation-horizontal\" id=\"ub_divider_1464683f-f202-4e97-ae8b-b49ab7610a4d\"><div class=\"ub_divider_wrapper\" style=\"position: relative; margin-bottom: 2px; width: 100%; height: 2px; \" data-divider-alignment=\"center\"><div class=\"ub_divider_line\" style=\"border-top: 2px solid #ccc; margin-top: 2px; \"><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Linux project descends into chaos as political activists enforce extremist politics.<\/h5>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/lunduke.locals.com\/member\/Lunduke\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>By Bryan Lunduke<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/media.locals.com\/images\/posts\/2024-07-02\/102127\/102127_dwqbl66n7g3o3pj_full.jpeg\" alt=\"post photo preview\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The NixOS project &#8212; a Linux distribution and packaging system which has achieved significant success &#8212; has descended into chaos as political activists seek to implement extreme, discriminatory policies&#8230; and ban those who raise objections to the discrimination.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As the political activists within NixOS put it: They are committing a &#8220;purge&#8221; of people they call &#8220;Nazis&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>First, a little background to set the stage for this wild tale&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Not actively pro-Trans?&nbsp; You&#8217;re a Nazi!<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>There is a significant, easily observable pattern of extreme bullying emerging within the Linux &amp; Open Source world: One where people are forced to declare allegiance to &#8220;Trans Issues&#8221;, or face severe consequences.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The typical pattern, within any given software project or company, goes something like this:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Trans Activists bully people into giving a disproportionately large amount of power (and praise) to people who identify as &#8220;Trans&#8221; &#8212; often discriminating <em>against<\/em> &#8220;non-Trans&#8221; people in the process.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>If someone raises concerns regarding that discrimination: That person is called a &#8220;Nazi&#8221;, &#8220;White Supremacist&#8221;, and &#8220;Transphobe&#8221;.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>That person is then banned from the project, community, or company (likewise, anyone who defends or agrees with that person is also banned).<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Note<\/strong>: It is not necessary for a person to say anything <em>even remotely<\/em> negative about &#8220;Trans&#8221; people or issues in order to be banned and attacked by the Trans Activists.&nbsp; The simple act of <em>objecting to discrimination<\/em> of non-Trans people is enough to provoke attacks and bullying.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A few recent examples of this bullying within major Linux and Open Source projects:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/lunduke.locals.com\/post\/5815715\/dont-wave-the-lgbt-flag-suse-opensuse-says-you-are-rotten-flesh\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">openSUSE declared that anyone<\/a> who does not fully support &#8220;Trans&#8221; activities &#8212; and wave the &#8220;Pride Flags&#8221; &#8212; is &#8220;Rotten Flesh&#8221; who should be banned from the entire Linux world.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/lunduke.locals.com\/post\/5818858\/elementary-os-asahi-linux-declare-war-on-right-wing-nerds\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Asahi &amp; elementary Linux both made a policy<\/a> of not allowing <em>any<\/em> users or contributors who do not actively support &#8220;Trans&#8221; activities.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/lunduke.locals.com\/post\/5515463\/red-hat-vs-hyprland-silencing-political-undesirables\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The Hyprland creator was banned<\/a>, by a Red Hat employee, from the Free Desktop project after a <em>perceived<\/em> lack of reverence for &#8220;Trans&#8221; activities and &#8220;pronouns&#8221;.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Now, it appears, we can add NixOS to that prestigious list.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The NixOS &#8220;Trans Only&#8221; Committee Seat<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>This story begins, as most wild tales do, in an incredibly dull way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Back in April, 2024, leadership within NixOS saught to create a new committee (focused on approving monetary sponsors of Nix).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I know.&nbsp; A committee talking about sponsorships.&nbsp; Boring, right?&nbsp; Trust me, this gets crazy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A small group of individuals &#8212; who are best described as &#8220;Political Activists&#8221; &#8212; demanded that this small committee <em>must<\/em> include dedicated seats for people identified as &#8220;Gender Minority&#8221;.&nbsp; (Aka: &#8220;Trans&#8221; People.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/media3.locals.com\/images\/posts\/2024-07-02\/102127\/102127_cm6w8pmmybpqr2j_custom.jpeg\" alt=\"\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Source: <a href=\"https:\/\/discourse.nixos.org\/t\/sponsorship-policy-discussion-2024-04-07\/42909\/1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Nix Sponsorship Policy Discussion, 2024-04-07<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Some NixOS project contributors raised concerns about having dedicated voting seats for one specific &#8220;minority group&#8221; (but not for others).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The core of these concerns seemed to be that this was, effectively, discriminating <em>against<\/em> some groups in order to provide a disproportionate advantage for <em>one<\/em> specific group (Trans).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/media3.locals.com\/images\/posts\/2024-07-02\/102127\/102127_62l1elqlfta4x3i_custom.jpeg\" alt=\"\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Source: <a href=\"https:\/\/discourse.nixos.org\/t\/objection-to-minority-representation-by-a-single-class-in-nixos-sponsorship-policy\/42968\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">NixOS forum<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>So far, this is a pretty simple story.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>One group wants a dedicated &#8220;Trans only&#8221; seat on a voting committee.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Another group is concerned that this would be discriminatory.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The two disagree&#8230; and discuss.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Straight forward &#8212; <em>and boring<\/em> &#8212; right?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Unfortunately, things get dark.&nbsp; Really dark.&nbsp; <em>In a hurry<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The NixOS &#8220;Purge&#8221;<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Instead of the two sides discussing their differences &#8212; and coming to some sort of agreement &#8212; the political activists (the &#8220;Trans Only Seat&#8221; group) decided to take a more&#8230; <em>intense<\/em> approach.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They began, what they called, a &#8220;purge&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/media3.locals.com\/images\/posts\/2024-07-02\/102127\/102127_68trc68e64qa13p_custom.jpeg\" alt=\"\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Source: <a href=\"https:\/\/chaos.social\/@hexa\/112661968657636449\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Mastodon screenshot of a chat session<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;<strong>What is needed is a purge<\/strong>,&#8221; stated one of the NixOS leaders who advocated for the &#8220;Trans Only Seat&#8221;, referring to people who disagreed with his stance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t disagree,&#8221; stated another.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The desire to conduct a &#8220;purge&#8221; continued&#8230; with the libelous attacks ramping up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/media3.locals.com\/images\/posts\/2024-07-02\/102127\/102127_hwcse5xx82yaubr_custom.jpeg\" alt=\"\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Source: <a href=\"https:\/\/chaos.social\/@hexa\/112661968657636449\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Mastodon<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>This same NixOS leader referred to the NixOS project as a &#8220;Nazi bar&#8221; (referring to many of the people raising objections to the &#8220;Trans Only Seat&#8221;)&#8230; reiterated the <em>need<\/em> for a &#8220;purge&#8221;&#8230; and finished it off with an image of the Antifa flag.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Context of using the Antifa Flag<\/strong>: Within the United States, many local governments and organizations consider Antifa to be a violent, terrorist organization.&nbsp; Antifa has claimed responsibility for several terrorist attacks (including riots, attempts to burn down Federal government buildings, and violent assaults on journalists).&nbsp; &#8220;Antifa&#8221; has a track record of labeling any who oppose them as &#8220;Nazis&#8221;.&nbsp; That this symbol would be used, by NixOS Foundation Leadership, while calling for a &#8220;purge&#8221; of the &#8220;Nazis&#8221; they disagree with, is significant and worth noting.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On April 21st, 2024, the &#8220;Purge&#8221; begins.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/media3.locals.com\/images\/posts\/2024-07-02\/102127\/102127_ynhdbnjamy1a9rl_custom.jpeg\" alt=\"\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Source: <a href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/NixOS\/moderation\/blob\/a872fae1e6dc35b5005e65373e0bbb33a4849568\/moderation-log.md?plain=1#L1-L35\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">NixOS Moderation Log of some people banned as part of &#8220;the purge&#8221;.<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Over the days that followed, several contributors to NixOS were suspended from the project &#8212; including forums and other communication systems (with some individuals, eventually, completely banned).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>After an exhaustive search, <em>The Lunduke Journal<\/em> was unable to find a single instance where the banned and suspended individuals made any derogatory statements against &#8220;Trans&#8221; individuals or any other groups.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>These &#8220;purged&#8221; people were labeled as &#8220;Nazis&#8221; by some NixOS leaders&#8230; in many cases because they were not sufficiently supportive of the concept of a &#8220;Trans Only Seat&#8221; on a voting committee (among other political topics).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It didn&#8217;t stop with the rank-and-file contributors to NixOS, either.&nbsp; It went all the way to the top, with accusations being posted regarding the founder of Nix, Eelco Dolstra.&nbsp; Prompting a response from the Nix founder.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/media3.locals.com\/images\/posts\/2024-07-02\/102127\/102127_a4wk6xbfvedp4mu_custom.jpeg\" alt=\"\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Source: <a href=\"https:\/\/determinate.systems\/posts\/on-community-in-nix\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Blog post by Nix founder, Eelco Dolstra<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;I must express my deep disappointment and disbelief at the accusation of excluding people from minority or marginalized backgrounds,&#8221; stated the <a href=\"https:\/\/determinate.systems\/posts\/on-community-in-nix\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Nix founder in a blog post<\/a>&nbsp;on April 26th.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The following day, the <a href=\"https:\/\/discourse.nixos.org\/t\/small-update-from-the-board\/44292\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Nix Foundation Board denounced the words<\/a>&nbsp;of the Nix founder.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Then &#8212; <em>and this seriously happened<\/em> &#8212; the Nix Foundation Board began drafting an abdication letter <em>on behalf<\/em> of the NixOS founder.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/media3.locals.com\/images\/posts\/2024-07-02\/102127\/102127_wrns33thx3vgpbd_custom.jpeg\" alt=\"\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Screenshot of the Google Doc where the abdication letter was drafted.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>This is real.&nbsp; Eelco Dolstra, the founder of Nix, had an abdication letter <em>written for him<\/em> and was pressured into signing it.&nbsp; One of the drafters made a note to the Nix Founder that he <em>must<\/em> add himself as a signatory of the letter &#8220;for it to <em>appear<\/em> amicable&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The abdication letter was <a href=\"https:\/\/discourse.nixos.org\/t\/nixos-foundation-board-giving-power-to-the-community\/44552\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">posted, with the Nix Founder as a signatory, on April 30th<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The NixOS Saga is Not Finished<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>This, truly, is a crazy tale.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Political extremists taking over a successful Open Source project &#8212; from the inside &#8212; and imposing wild, discriminatory, political policies.&nbsp; Followed by the vilification &#8212; <strong><em>and mass &#8220;purge&#8221; <\/em><\/strong>&#8212; of any who opposed their extremist politics&#8230; culminating in the (seemingly forced) abdication of the founder of the project itself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And, perhaps even more wild, is the fact that this is only a <em>small fraction<\/em> of the NixOS story.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A story with a huge number of players, and hundreds of pages of documents.&nbsp; In-fighting.&nbsp; Abuse.&nbsp; Politics.&nbsp; And more than a few swear words.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What&#8217;s more&#8230; the saga continues to unfold, with NixOS itself currently in a state of chaos at the hands of a small number of political activists.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But the rest of this story&#8230; is for another day.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-ub-divider ub_divider ub-divider-orientation-horizontal\" id=\"ub_divider_ee97305c-0526-43cb-aeee-27317a4df396\"><div class=\"ub_divider_wrapper\" style=\"position: relative; margin-bottom: 2px; width: 100%; height: 2px; \" data-divider-alignment=\"center\"><div class=\"ub_divider_line\" style=\"border-top: 2px solid #ccc; margin-top: 2px; \"><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Four Months After The NixOS &quot;Nazi Purge&quot;\" width=\"1290\" height=\"726\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/QqKpuSLnm4k?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; 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