{"id":8593,"date":"2024-09-21T09:50:02","date_gmt":"2024-09-21T16:50:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jasonsblog.ddns.net\/?p=8593"},"modified":"2024-09-21T09:51:25","modified_gmt":"2024-09-21T16:51:25","slug":"theres-no-way-qualcomm-is-buying-intel-as-is","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jasonsblog.ddns.net\/index.php\/2024\/09\/21\/theres-no-way-qualcomm-is-buying-intel-as-is\/","title":{"rendered":"There\u2019s No Way Qualcomm Is Buying Intel as Is"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Qualcomm is not a good operator by the fact they were caught <a href=\"https:\/\/jasonsblog.ddns.net\/index.php\/2023\/05\/08\/smartphones-with-popular-qualcomm-chip-secretly-share-private-information-with-us-chip-maker\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">spying on users outside the phone OS<\/a>. And that&#8217;s a problem with cellular phones, as a lot of firmware\/software is outside the operating system and the user has no control over it. So let&#8217;s hope this analysis is correct, and Qualcomm won&#8217;t be allowed to buy Intel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2024\/09\/21\/qualcomm_intel_takeover\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2024\/09\/21\/qualcomm_intel_takeover\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-ub-divider ub_divider ub-divider-orientation-horizontal\" id=\"ub_divider_b02f05e6-9564-40da-ad00-5e1b2f7281c8\"><div class=\"ub_divider_wrapper\" style=\"position: relative; margin-bottom: 2px; width: 100%; height: 2px; \" data-divider-alignment=\"center\"><div class=\"ub_divider_line\" style=\"border-top: 2px solid #ccc; margin-top: 2px; \"><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Is this from the same gossips who were wrong about Altera and Mobileye or the DoJ subpoenaing Nvidia?<\/h5>\n\n\n\n<p>By Tobias Mann<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Comment Qualcomm may be after more than Intel&#8217;s PC design business as it has supposedly approached the x86 giant about a possible takeover.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That&#8217;s what unnamed sources told the Wall Street Journal for a report <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/business\/deals\/qualcomm-approached-intel-about-a-takeover-in-recent-days-fa114f9d\">published<\/a> Friday. CNBC also <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/2024\/09\/20\/qualcomm-reportedly-approached-intel-about-takeover.html\">said<\/a> it heard the same thing: That Qualcomm contacted Intel about a potential takeover in recent days.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Surprise, surprise, details regarding the alleged acquisition plans, which are apparently far from certain, are razor thin to say the least. This could be nothing more than Qualcomm wanting to talk to Intel about possibilities.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That hasn&#8217;t stopped Intel&#8217;s shares from rallying while Qualcomm&#8217;s have dipped, as the news met a mix of optimism and apprehension by investors.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>The Register<\/em> asked Intel and Qualcomm for a response. Intel declined. Qualcomm is saying nothing. So instead, we&#8217;ll emphasize that the logistics of such a bombshell acquisition would be far from trivial if not nigh-on impossible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Reality check<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>At the end of its third quarter [<a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/d1io3yog0oux5.cloudfront.net\/_eb2d9ca193671e7705bf001a8ccc3123\/qualcomm\/db\/773\/7421\/file\/FY2024+3rd+Quarter+Earnings+Release.pdf\">PDF<\/a>] of its fiscal 2024, the three months to June 23, Qualcomm had $7.8 billion in cash and cash equivalents at its disposal and just over $23 billion in total assets. That means Qualcomm, best known for its cellular modems and Snapdragon mobile processors, is almost certainly looking at a stock-for-stock transaction. As of writing, Qualcomm&#8217;s market cap is $188 billion, just more than double that of Intel&#8217;s at $93 billion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The WSJ suggested this possible takeover might also include selling off some of Intel&#8217;s assets to others to make the acquisition more manageable. It probably would have to for Qualcomm to stomach the deal, financially and strategically speaking. And even if Intel&#8217;s board agreed whatever offer may emerge, getting regulatory approval \u2013 persuading the US, UK, EU, and others that gobbling up more semiconductor market share will be OK for competition \u2013 may not be its only hurdle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In fact, Chipzilla may not be worth much to Qualcomm unless it can renegotiate the x86\/x86-64 cross-licensing <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2009\/11\/12\/intel_amd_settle_suits\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">patent agreement<\/a> between Intel and AMD, which dates back <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.sec.gov\/Archives\/edgar\/data\/2488\/000119312509236705\/dex102.htm\">to 2009<\/a>. That agreement is terminated if a change in control happens at either Intel or AMD. There are also prior pacts between AMD and Intel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>While a number of the aforementioned patents expired in 2021, it&#8217;s our understanding that agreement is still in force and Qualcomm would be subject to change of control rules. In other words, Qualcomm wouldn&#8217;t be able to produce Intel-designed x86-64 chips unless AMD gave the green light. It&#8217;s also likely one of the reasons why no one bought AMD when it was <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2015\/07\/16\/amd_q2_2015_results_bloodbath\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">on the ropes<\/a>; whoever took over it would have to deal with Intel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This isn&#8217;t the first time we&#8217;ve run into rumors that Qualcomm was trying to strip Intel for parts. An earlier report by Reuters citing unnamed sources alleged Qualcomm was <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2024\/09\/06\/qualcomm_intel_rumors\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">interested<\/a> in picking up Intel&#8217;s client PC design business.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The WSJ report comes just days after Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2024\/09\/17\/intel_foundry_aws_dod\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">announced<\/a> plans to spin off its ailing foundry division as a standalone subsidiary; postpone development of its German and Polish foundry sites; and consolidate its automotive and networking and edge (NEX) groups under its client division. All of this in a bid to staunch the tech giant&#8217;s <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2024\/08\/01\/intel_to_ax_headcount\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">bleeding<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Leading up to the decision, Intel has been the subject of considerable speculation, including reports it planned to completely sell off its FPGA and autonomous driving business units. The chipmaker has since <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.crn.com\/news\/components-peripherals\/2024\/exclusive-altera-ceo-says-intel-s-ipo-plan-for-fpga-unit-has-not-changed\">clarified<\/a> that its plan to take Altera public hasn&#8217;t changed \u2013 it&#8217;s <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2023\/10\/03\/intel_spins_off_fpga_biz\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">already spun off<\/a> and awaiting an IPO \u2013 and that it has <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/technology\/intel-says-it-has-no-plans-divest-majority-stake-mobileye-2024-09-19\/\">no plans<\/a> to give up its majority stake in Mobileye.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Intel isn&#8217;t the only tech company whose stock has taken a roller coaster ride in response to whisperings. Early this month, Bloomberg cited unnamed sources in a report claiming that the US Department of Justice had issued subpoenas to Nvidia as part of an ongoing antitrust investigation into the GPU giant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nvidia later <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2024\/09\/04\/nvidia_doj_subpoena\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">denied<\/a> the report, saying that while it had made contact with the US government, it had not been subpoenaed. \u00ae<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Qualcomm is not a good operator by the fact they were caught spying on users outside the phone OS. And that&#8217;s a problem with cellular phones, as a lot of firmware\/software is outside the operating system and the user has no control over it. So let&#8217;s hope this analysis is correct, and Qualcomm won&#8217;t be [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8593","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-tech"],"blocksy_meta":[],"featured_image_src":null,"author_info":{"display_name":"Jason","author_link":"https:\/\/jasonsblog.ddns.net\/index.php\/author\/jturning\/"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jasonsblog.ddns.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8593","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jasonsblog.ddns.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jasonsblog.ddns.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jasonsblog.ddns.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jasonsblog.ddns.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8593"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/jasonsblog.ddns.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8593\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8596,"href":"https:\/\/jasonsblog.ddns.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8593\/revisions\/8596"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jasonsblog.ddns.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8593"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jasonsblog.ddns.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8593"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jasonsblog.ddns.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8593"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}