{"id":15775,"date":"2026-02-15T09:15:33","date_gmt":"2026-02-15T16:15:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jasonsblog.ddns.net\/?p=15775"},"modified":"2026-02-15T09:15:33","modified_gmt":"2026-02-15T16:15:33","slug":"amazons-ring-and-googles-nest-unwittingly-reveal-the-severity-of-the-u-s-surveillance-state","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jasonsblog.ddns.net\/index.php\/2026\/02\/15\/amazons-ring-and-googles-nest-unwittingly-reveal-the-severity-of-the-u-s-surveillance-state\/","title":{"rendered":"Amazon’s Ring and Google’s Nest Unwittingly Reveal the Severity of the U.S. Surveillance State"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

This quoted paragraph below is golden. And trying to link Ring with Flock was the sign of where this is headed, and a stroke of genius getting regular citizens to buy and install this hardware for the state. Though, people are waking up. Consequently, yesterday I turned my phone radios off while traveling into Colorado, but due to Flock ALPR cameras<\/a>, we were recorded along our travels, which is diabolical. And do we trust Flock to not sell this data to the federal government, skirting the Fourth Amendment like with phone app location data?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Many private citizens who previously used Ring also reacted negatively. \u201cViral videos online show people removing or destroying their cameras over privacy concerns,\u201d reported<\/a> USA Today. The backlash became so severe that, just days later, Amazon \u2014 seeking to assuage public anger \u2014 announced<\/a> the termination of a partnership between Ring and Flock Safety, a police surveillance tech company (while Flock is unrelated to Search Party, public backlash made it impossible, at least for now, for Amazon to send Ring\u2019s user data to a police surveillance firm).<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

https:\/\/greenwald.substack.com\/p\/amazons-ring-and-googles-nest-unwittingly<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n

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Just a decade after a global backlash was triggered by Snowden reporting on mass domestic surveillance, the state-corporate dragnet is stronger and more invasive than ever.<\/h5>\n\n\n\n

By Glenn Greenwald<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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One of Google\u2019s Nest surveillance cameras, whose recordings can be accessed by Google even if users don\u2019t subscribe to the security firm\u2019s services. <\/em>CC Photo Lab \/ Shutterstock<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

That the U.S. Surveillance State is<\/strong> rapidly growing to the point of ubiquity has been demonstrated over the past week by seemingly benign events. While the picture that emerges is grim, to put it mildly, at least Americans are again confronted with crystal clarity over how severe this has become.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The latest round of valid panic over privacy began during the Super Bowl held on Sunday. During the game, Amazon ran a commercial<\/a> for its Ring camera security system. The ad manipulatively exploited people\u2019s love of dogs to induce them to ignore the consequences of what Amazon was touting. It seems that trick did not work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The ad highlighted what the company calls its \u201cSearch Party\u201d feature, whereby one can upload a picture, for example, of a lost dog. Doing so will activate multiple other Amazon Ring cameras in the neighborhood, which will, in turn, use AI programs to scan all dogs, it seems, and identify the one that is lost. The 30-second commercial was full of heart-tugging scenes of young children and elderly people being reunited with their lost dogs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

But the graphic Amazon used seems to have unwittingly depicted how invasive this technology can be. That this capability now exists in a product that has long been pitched as nothing more than a simple tool for homeowners to monitor their own homes created, it seems, an unavoidable contrast between public understanding of Ring and what Amazon was now boasting it could do.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Amazon\u2019s Super Bowl ad for Ring and its \u201cSearch Party\u201d feature.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Many people were not just surprised but quite shocked and alarmed to learn that what they thought was merely their own personal security system now has the ability to link with countless other Ring cameras to form a neighborhood-wide (or city-wide, or state-wide) surveillance dragnet. That Amazon emphasized that this feature is available (for now) only to those who \u201copt-in\u201d did not assuage concerns.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Numerous media outlets sounded the alarm. The online privacy group Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) condemned<\/a> Ring\u2019s program as previewing \u201ca world where biometric identification could be unleashed from consumer devices to identify, track, and locate anything \u2014 human, pet, and otherwise.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Many private citizens who previously used Ring also reacted negatively. \u201cViral videos online show people removing or destroying their cameras over privacy concerns,\u201d reported<\/a> USA Today. The backlash became so severe that, just days later, Amazon \u2014 seeking to assuage public anger \u2014 announced<\/a> the termination of a partnership between Ring and Flock Safety, a police surveillance tech company (while Flock is unrelated to Search Party, public backlash made it impossible, at least for now, for Amazon to send Ring\u2019s user data to a police surveillance firm).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Amazon ad seems to have triggered a long-overdue spotlight on how the combination of ubiquitous cameras, AI, and rapidly advancing facial recognition software will render the term \u201cprivacy\u201d little more than a quaint concept from the past. As EFF put it, Ring\u2019s program \u201ccould already run afoul of biometric privacy laws in some states, which require explicit, informed consent from individuals before a company can just run face recognition on someone.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Those concerns escalated just a few days later in the context of the Tucson disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, mother of long-time TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie. At the home where she lives, Nancy Guthrie used Google\u2019s Nest camera for security, a product similar to Amazon\u2019s Ring.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Guthrie, however, did not pay Google for a subscription for those cameras, instead solely using the cameras for real-time monitoring. As CBS News explained<\/a>, \u201cwith a free Google Nest plan, the video should have been deleted within 3 to 6 hours \u2014 long after Guthrie was reported missing.\u201d Even professional privacy advocates have understood that customers who use Nest without a subscription will not have their cameras connected to Google\u2019s data servers, meaning that no recordings will be stored or available for any period beyond a few hours.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For that reason, Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos announced<\/a> early on \u201cthat there was no video available in part because Guthrie didn\u2019t have an active subscription to the company.\u201d Many people, for obvious reasons, prefer to avoid permanently storing comprehensive daily video reports with Google of when they leave and return to their own home, or who visits them at their home, when, and for how long.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Despite all this, FBI investigators on the case were somehow magically able to \u201crecover\u201d this video from Guthrie\u2019s camera many days later. FBI Director Kash Patel was essentially forced to admit this when he released still images of what appears to be the masked perpetrator who broke into Guthrie\u2019s home. (The Google user agreement, which few users read, does protect the company by stating that images may be stored even in the absence of a subscription.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Image obtained through Nancy Guthrie\u2019s unsubscribed Google Nest camera and released by the FBI.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

While the \u201cdiscovery\u201d of footage from this home camera by Google engineers is obviously of great value to the Guthrie family and law enforcement agents searching for Guthrie, it raises obvious yet serious questions about why Google, contrary to common understanding, was storing the video footage of unsubscribed users. A former NSA data researcher and CEO of a cybersecurity firm, Patrick Johnson, told CBS: \u201cThere’s kind of this old saying that data is never deleted, it’s just renamed.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It is rather remarkable that<\/strong> Americans are being led, more or less willingly, into a state-corporate, Panopticon-like domestic surveillance state with relatively little resistance, though the widespread reaction to Amazon\u2019s Ring ad is encouraging. Much of that muted reaction may be due to a lack of realization about the severity of the evolving privacy threat. Beyond that, privacy and other core rights can seem abstract and less of a priority than more material concerns, at least until they are gone.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It is always the case that there are benefits available from relinquishing core civil liberties: allowing infringements on free speech may reduce false claims and hateful ideas; allowing searches and seizures without warrants will likely help the police catch more criminals, and do so more quickly; giving up privacy may, in fact, enhance security.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

But the core premise of the West generally, and the U.S. in particular, is that those trade-offs are never worthwhile. Americans still all learn and are taught to admire the iconic (if not apocryphal) 1775 words of Patrick Henry, which came to define the core ethos of the Revolutionary War and American Founding: \u201cGive me liberty or give me death.\u201d It is hard to express in more definitive terms on which side of that liberty-versus-security trade-off the U.S. was intended to fall.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

These recent events emerge in a broader context of this new Silicon Valley-driven destruction of individual privacy. Palantir\u2019s federal contracts for domestic surveillance and domestic data management continue to expand rapidly, with more and more intrusive data about Americans consolidated under the control of this one sinister corporation<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Facial recognition technology \u2014 now fully in use for an array of purposes from Customs and Border Protection at airports to ICE\u2019s patrolling of American streets \u2014 means that fully tracking one\u2019s movements in public spaces is easier than ever, and is becoming easier by the day. It was only three years ago that we interviewed<\/a> New York Times<\/em> reporter Kashmir Hill about her new book, \u201cYour Face Belongs to Us.\u201d The warnings she issued about the dangers of this proliferating technology have not only come true with startling speed but also appear already beyond what even she envisioned.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

On top of all this are advances in AI. Its effects on privacy cannot yet be quantified, but they will not be good. I have tried most AI programs simply to remain abreast of how they function.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

After just a few weeks, I had to stop my use of Google\u2019s Gemini because it was compiling not just segregated data about me, but also a wide array of information to form what could reasonably be described as a dossier on my life, including information I had not wittingly provided it. It would answer questions I asked it with creepy, unrelated references to the far-too-complete picture it had managed to create of many aspects of my life (at one point, it commented, somewhat judgmentally or out of feigned \u201cconcern,\u201d about the late hours I was keeping while working, a topic I never raised).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Many of these unnerving developments have happened without much public notice because we are often distracted by what appear to be more immediate and proximate events in the news cycle. The lack of sufficient attention to these privacy dangers over the last couple of years, including at times from me, should not obscure how consequential they are.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

All of this is particularly remarkable, and particularly disconcerting, since we are barely more than a decade removed from the disclosures about mass domestic surveillance enabled by the courageous whistleblower Edward Snowden. Although most of our reporting focused on state surveillance, one of the first stories<\/a> featured the joint state-corporate spying framework built in conjunction with the U.S. security state and Silicon Valley giants.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Snowden stories sparked years of anger, attempts at reform, changes in diplomatic relations, and even genuine (albeit forced) improvements<\/a> in Big Tech\u2019s user privacy. But the calculation of the U.S. security state and Big Tech was that at some point, attention to privacy concerns would disperse and then virtually evaporate, enabling the state-corporate surveillance state to march on without much notice or resistance. At least as of now, the calculation seems to have been vindicated.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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